Comments on: Mediocre Programmers Suck http://manalang.com/archives/2005/07/25/mediocre-programmers-suck/ enhancing your experience since 2003. Fri, 05 Dec 2008 01:11:32 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.5 By: Raj http://manalang.com/archives/2005/07/25/mediocre-programmers-suck/#comment-18688 Raj Wed, 25 Jan 2006 00:20:02 +0000 http://manalang.wordpress.com/2005/07/25/mediocre-programmers-suck/#comment-18688 Rich, its interesting that large corporations are vehemently opposed to the concept of code reviews - a simple step that would easily eliminate over 60% of bugs - and prefer the tedious process of automated testing. One manager I spoke to attributed this to "do not want to show lack of trust to the programmer" - gimme a break! there is nothing better than to learn from a pro and to have code that blazes instead of reinventing the wheel and perpetuating the solitary task of coding into a silo's development.... In fact outsourced organizations have a much better attitude towards this concept - what they may lack in extreme talent they make up for it in process, collaboration and team work, the way it was supposed to be donw. Rich, its interesting that large corporations are vehemently opposed to the concept of code reviews - a simple step that would easily eliminate over 60% of bugs - and prefer the tedious process of automated testing. One manager I spoke to attributed this to “do not want to show lack of trust to the programmer” - gimme a break! there is nothing better than to learn from a pro and to have code that blazes instead of reinventing the wheel and perpetuating the solitary task of coding into a silo’s development….

In fact outsourced organizations have a much better attitude towards this concept - what they may lack in extreme talent they make up for it in process, collaboration and team work, the way it was supposed to be donw.

]]> By: Victor http://manalang.com/archives/2005/07/25/mediocre-programmers-suck/#comment-18687 Victor Tue, 26 Jul 2005 04:26:18 +0000 http://manalang.wordpress.com/2005/07/25/mediocre-programmers-suck/#comment-18687 I dis outsourcing as much as you do. However the problem mentioned is not just outsouring. Do you think in most of American software house, the star programmers got what they deserve? In what percentage? The bigger the firm is, in general # of stupid manager will increase, then they tend to hire mediocre programmers instead of star ones. Just my observations. From another perpestive, if I start an outsourcing firm or in charge of hiring, I will start to hire more star programmer as mentors, and core of them, pay them more than they can earn in America, then this will beat the average American software house in quality in a huge percentage. I dis outsourcing as much as you do. However the problem mentioned is not just outsouring.
Do you think in most of American software house, the star programmers got what they deserve? In what percentage? The bigger the firm is, in general # of stupid manager will increase, then they tend to hire mediocre programmers instead of star ones. Just my observations.
From another perpestive, if I start an outsourcing firm or in charge of hiring, I will start to hire more star programmer as mentors, and core of them, pay them more than they can earn in America, then this will beat the average American software house in quality in a huge percentage.

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